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		<title>Comment on 3G challenge by Keli</title>
		<link>http://www.jenny-and-jp.org/2008/09/01/3g-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-11029</link>
		<dc:creator>Keli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 09:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an ingenious way of tinhikng about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an ingenious way of tinhikng about it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A few months in photos by Tweets that mention A few months in photos &#124; jenny-and-jp.org -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention A few months in photos &#124; jenny-and-jp.org -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by JP Renaud, Jenny and JP Renaud. Jenny and JP Renaud said: New blog post: A few months in photos http://www.jenny-and-jp.org/2011/02/13/a-few-months-in-photos/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by JP Renaud, Jenny and JP Renaud. Jenny and JP Renaud said: New blog post: A few months in photos <a href="http://www.jenny-and-jp.org/2011/02/13/a-few-months-in-photos/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jenny-and-jp.org/2011/02/13/a-few-months-in-photos/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A very brave little girl by Stormy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stormy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That must have been terrifying! Best wishes to all of you. I&#039;m glad A. is doing well now.

I too think the Ronald McDonald house is awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That must have been terrifying! Best wishes to all of you. I&#8217;m glad A. is doing well now.</p>
<p>I too think the Ronald McDonald house is awesome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using washable nappies &#8211; is it worth it? by jenny-et-jp.org &#187; Les couches lavables, est-ce que ça vaut le coup?</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenny-et-jp.org &#187; Les couches lavables, est-ce que ça vaut le coup?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] quelques soirées à rechercher le problème via la littérature scientifique. Il a alors écrit un article en anglais sur la version anglaise du [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Using washable nappies &#8211; is it worth it? by JP Renaud</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP Renaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3194&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@jim &lt;/a&gt; Hey Jim, long time no speak!! I suspect you used &quot;simpler&quot; nappies than the ones mentioned in this article re: price of the starter kit. It&#039;s for shaped nappies which come with velcro or press studs, booster pads, external liners etc... (the works). Basic pieces of terry cloth and safety pins would be cheaper. But maybe it&#039;s just much cheaper on your side of the pond!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3194" rel="nofollow">@jim </a> Hey Jim, long time no speak!! I suspect you used &#8220;simpler&#8221; nappies than the ones mentioned in this article re: price of the starter kit. It&#8217;s for shaped nappies which come with velcro or press studs, booster pads, external liners etc&#8230; (the works). Basic pieces of terry cloth and safety pins would be cheaper. But maybe it&#8217;s just much cheaper on your side of the pond!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using washable nappies &#8211; is it worth it? by JP Renaud</title>
		<link>http://www.jenny-and-jp.org/2010/05/23/using-washable-nappies-is-it-worth-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3201</link>
		<dc:creator>JP Renaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3199&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Morag &lt;/a&gt; Hi Morag, You&#039;re right about the two EA reports (which are fully referenced in my post btw). They do conclude that the onus is on the consumer for the real nappies. After doing a lot of reading on the subject, I feel that the real nappy promotional literature should be very clear about it though and highlight how borderline it is if the laundering advice is not adhered to.

Regarding costs, it&#039;s true that re-using nappies for a second child (or borrowing nappies from somebody else) will reduce costs (by half almost according to my calculations). I saw on your website that cot to potty kits are sold for £250 so my estimates seem conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3199" rel="nofollow">@Morag </a> Hi Morag, You&#8217;re right about the two EA reports (which are fully referenced in my post btw). They do conclude that the onus is on the consumer for the real nappies. After doing a lot of reading on the subject, I feel that the real nappy promotional literature should be very clear about it though and highlight how borderline it is if the laundering advice is not adhered to.</p>
<p>Regarding costs, it&#8217;s true that re-using nappies for a second child (or borrowing nappies from somebody else) will reduce costs (by half almost according to my calculations). I saw on your website that cot to potty kits are sold for £250 so my estimates seem conservative.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using washable nappies &#8211; is it worth it? by Morag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 10:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve put a lot of work into this - well done. And thanks for the links.

As you can see, I&#039;m the Nappy Lady, and cloth nappies is what we do. I do my best to give people the complete picture and a fair comparison, rather than trying to frighten people off using disposables. It&#039;s not our job to persuade people to use cloth, but to ensure they don&#039;t waste money when they do. It&#039;s all too easy to get sucked into cloth nappy addiction!

There have been two Environment Agency lifecycle reports about nappies. Both came to the same conclusion, though no newspapers reported on it: that responsibility for the environmental impact of the nappies you use rests largely with the manufacturer for disposables and largely with the consumer for cloth nappies.

The more children you have, the greater the cost benefit of using cloth. I made a net PROFIT of about £100 on nappying my second son - all I had to buy was a few top up items and I sold the nappies at the end of the process.

Anyway, I&#039;m currently writing the Nappy Lady Guide to Cloth Nappies, so if any readers want to contribute their ideas for what they would like to see in that, please pop over to my blog at www.nappyladyuk.co.uk or to our main information site at www.thenappylady.co.uk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve put a lot of work into this &#8211; well done. And thanks for the links.</p>
<p>As you can see, I&#8217;m the Nappy Lady, and cloth nappies is what we do. I do my best to give people the complete picture and a fair comparison, rather than trying to frighten people off using disposables. It&#8217;s not our job to persuade people to use cloth, but to ensure they don&#8217;t waste money when they do. It&#8217;s all too easy to get sucked into cloth nappy addiction!</p>
<p>There have been two Environment Agency lifecycle reports about nappies. Both came to the same conclusion, though no newspapers reported on it: that responsibility for the environmental impact of the nappies you use rests largely with the manufacturer for disposables and largely with the consumer for cloth nappies.</p>
<p>The more children you have, the greater the cost benefit of using cloth. I made a net PROFIT of about £100 on nappying my second son &#8211; all I had to buy was a few top up items and I sold the nappies at the end of the process.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m currently writing the Nappy Lady Guide to Cloth Nappies, so if any readers want to contribute their ideas for what they would like to see in that, please pop over to my blog at <a href="http://www.nappyladyuk.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.nappyladyuk.co.uk</a> or to our main information site at <a href="http://www.thenappylady.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenappylady.co.uk</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using washable nappies &#8211; is it worth it? by jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 22:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is the most thorough analysis I&#039;ve seen on the subject.  

We went with nappies for both of our kids, except when we were away from home (e.g., overnight camping, for example), where we&#039;d use disposable because there is no safe and convenient storage mechanism for soiled nappies.   :)  The original nappies were far less expensive, around US$100 if I recall.  

Once you do several dozen washings, it becomes rote and you can multitask really well.  As we are in a very wet, cool climate, air drying isn&#039;t feasible.  We did find that a more efficient spin cycle on the washer helped reduce the tumble dry times substantially (90 minutes down to 45 minutes).  Tumble-dried nappies produce a lot of lint, requiring more frequent cleaning of the dryer exhaust.  

Also, when your child is toilet-trained, the nappies are still usable as household rags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is the most thorough analysis I&#8217;ve seen on the subject.  </p>
<p>We went with nappies for both of our kids, except when we were away from home (e.g., overnight camping, for example), where we&#8217;d use disposable because there is no safe and convenient storage mechanism for soiled nappies.   <img src='http://www.jenny-and-jp.org/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   The original nappies were far less expensive, around US$100 if I recall.  </p>
<p>Once you do several dozen washings, it becomes rote and you can multitask really well.  As we are in a very wet, cool climate, air drying isn&#8217;t feasible.  We did find that a more efficient spin cycle on the washer helped reduce the tumble dry times substantially (90 minutes down to 45 minutes).  Tumble-dried nappies produce a lot of lint, requiring more frequent cleaning of the dryer exhaust.  </p>
<p>Also, when your child is toilet-trained, the nappies are still usable as household rags.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using washable nappies &#8211; is it worth it? by JP Renaud</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP Renaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 21:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-3192&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@andy &lt;/a&gt; You&#039;re right, although I am not sure you can assume that you&#039;d make more money if you were not packing/washing: most people have only one job and nappy duties are unlikely to change their working hours.

Another thing that a friend pointed out is that I should have accounted for the depreciation of the washing machine as it is used more and therefore its life will be reduced. This would affect the environmental impact too.

Overall the cost argument does not convince me, I agree with you. However, I am pretty sure now that it&#039;s better for the environment which matters a lot to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-3192" rel="nofollow">@andy </a> You&#8217;re right, although I am not sure you can assume that you&#8217;d make more money if you were not packing/washing: most people have only one job and nappy duties are unlikely to change their working hours.</p>
<p>Another thing that a friend pointed out is that I should have accounted for the depreciation of the washing machine as it is used more and therefore its life will be reduced. This would affect the environmental impact too.</p>
<p>Overall the cost argument does not convince me, I agree with you. However, I am pretty sure now that it&#8217;s better for the environment which matters a lot to me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Using washable nappies &#8211; is it worth it? by andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 20:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that was certainly a lot of research. Overall the balance was 454 for real nappies vs 650 for disposables; a difference of 196 pounds.  However, you forgot to factor in the time for washing the nappies.  It takes time to put them in the wash, hang them up, pack them away etc.  At 196 pounds, assuming that one makes 20 pounds an hour (a very conservative assumption, salary is likely to be larger) then one covers the difference in less than 10 hours.  That is easily achievable over two years.  In fact, one could ignore the money cost, because if one used disposables and spent the time working (assuming you could get extra money for that time) then the difference would be zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that was certainly a lot of research. Overall the balance was 454 for real nappies vs 650 for disposables; a difference of 196 pounds.  However, you forgot to factor in the time for washing the nappies.  It takes time to put them in the wash, hang them up, pack them away etc.  At 196 pounds, assuming that one makes 20 pounds an hour (a very conservative assumption, salary is likely to be larger) then one covers the difference in less than 10 hours.  That is easily achievable over two years.  In fact, one could ignore the money cost, because if one used disposables and spent the time working (assuming you could get extra money for that time) then the difference would be zero.</p>
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